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 Post subject: Death in Gaza
PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 8:18 am
  

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Not really much to say about it is there? Just DEATH IN GAZA!


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 12:07 pm
  

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Death is everywhere......but to have death, there must first be LIFE!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Death in Gaza
PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 12:39 pm
  

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Hmmm


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 Post subject: Re: Death in Gaza
PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 2:44 pm
  

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Such deep comments.

As for me, I will never feel indifferent about innocent people dying.

I said this in another thread and it was shrugged off...

Do people really think they can solve their differences with rockets and air strikes? (update: followed by invasion and occupation?)

Each side telling their friends and loved ones as they lay dying, victims of todays newest retaliation (update: and escalation), "Don't worry, we will kill them all."

Meanwhile, some skidmark is getting rich selling anything they can (update: to both sides) to help kill more.

Israeli officials know they can count on the Bush administration's support, but are less sure about Obama.

The timing of the cease-fire ending and 3 weeks of w left before the new sheriff comes to town, may have come into play.

Look for things to get much worse over the next few weeks.

One president at a time would work if w=1.


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 Post subject: Re: Death in Gaza
PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 5:22 pm
  

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DRR wrote:
As for me, I will never feel indifferent about innocent people dying.


I never said I felt indifferent about it! I just said that there is really nothing more to say other than

Death in Gaza!


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 12:35 pm
  

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Ha, I must have missed the point of saying that there is really nothing more to say other than Death in Gaza!

To my tiny absinthe soaked brain:

Your statement seems indifferent.

Your statement seems ambiguous.

Then the voices in my head asked...

Wait, what?

Is it a new years toast?

Is PSBeaty promoting death in Gaza?

Is PSBeaty opposed to death in Gaza?

Is PSBeaty promoting "Death In Gaza" the movie?

Do the words death in Gaza somehow hold some magical potency?

Is there truly nothing more to say about a deadly conflict that has gone on for more than 60 years, other than death in Gaza?

...then the smell of licorice from the absinthe brought me back to my senselessness.

So please forgive me for staying seated, slowly sipping said sublime sap shaded spirt while you toast the new year with...

Death In Gaza!


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:28 pm
  

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...death in Gaza breaks my heart, DRR...
...for me all I know to do is pray in these moments...
not for everyone, I know... but for me...

it's very hard not to be able to "do" anything...

hopefully there will be some things to do when our government is back to full throttle... hopefully....

it's a hard time...


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 Post subject: Re: Death in Gaza
PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 2:25 pm
  

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Thank you, kj, and drr., and Sean, for finding words that I can't find when the tragedy and sorrow are so deep and unending.


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 Post subject: Re: Death in Gaza
PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 2:57 pm
  

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sometimes frustration speaks, or leaves you not knowing what to say?
i too posted thoughts on another thread...and read the posts there, none dismissed


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:16 pm
  

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When will the circle be broken?

Whether it is Death in Gaza, or death in Gaza, it is a cycle that keeps repeating itself:
from the news....
A senior Hamas leader made a rare appearance to rally his troops. Hamas' second in command Mahmoud Zahar released a statement to Alaqsa TV stating, "By killing our children you legitimize us killing your children. By bombing our mosque you legitimize us bombing your synagogue. By bombing our hospitals you legitimize to us bombing your hospitals."


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 Post subject: Re: Death in Gaza
PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:36 am
  

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A call and response? I hear a call (posing with an ear to the world)

Ha, I must have missed the point of saying that there is really nothing more to say other than Death in Gaza!

To my tiny absinthe soaked brain:
I was going try that once in Prague, but didn’t.
Your statement seems indifferent.
True, but the world seems quite indifferent in general!
Your statement seems ambiguous.
Probably, as I stated it since I am not indifferent.
Then the voices in my head asked...
The voices in my head ask stupid shit too!
Wait, what?
Death in Gaza
Is it a new years toast?
No!
Is PSBeaty promoting death in Gaza?
I never promote death!
Is PSBeaty opposed to death in Gaza?
I am certainly opposed to posturing by death anywhere!
Is PSBeaty promoting "Death In Gaza" the movie?
A movie will follow eventually although these scenes may lie on the cutting room floor!
Do the words death in Gaza somehow hold some magical potency?
They got you a little goofy and passionate! Probably won’t affect most people!
Is there truly nothing more to say about a deadly conflict that has gone on for more than 60 years, other than death in Gaza?
People have talked and talked and talked for 60 years, some people made careers out of punditcy .. that is right…pun-DITZY…on the subject!!!
...then the smell of licorice from the absinthe brought me back to my senselessness.
Ah senselessness, the whole point of this discourse!
So please forgive me for staying seated, slowly sipping said sublime sap shaded spirit while you toast the new year with...

Death In Gaza!

Funny, to me, it is just an observation on the condition of man in the year 2009 AD!

I think the very first post I posted on the Group W Bench called for radio stations and television sets all over the world to play once a day in harmony “Children of Abraham, What’s your story, killing’ each other for a piece of land” while visions of Death in Gaza (or New York, or Baghdad, or Africa or wherever death is happening for geopolitical/religious tradition/ blood feud/ general stupidity reasons anywhere on the planet! But, people who obviously wield more power than I, continue to pursue that tried and true approach of money, guns and lawyers! Why hell, the Mayor of NYC and our President have both said one side is justified in its actions in the turmoil! I personally never saw the presentations in the dimly lit room where the panel of the powerful debated whose justification for Death in Gaza was more sound, the HAMAS or the ISRAELI. I am sure both justifications were well reasoned with impeccable logic, however, I feel quite certain, that the VOICE OF REASON, although acknowledged as having some merit, was rejected as the FOOL’S GAMBIT!



Children of Abraham, what's your story?
Killing each other for a piece of land
Children of Abraham, this ain't glory
You've got to walk together hand in hand

Take down the flags that just seperate the people
Take down the wire on the boundry
Take back the words that were spoken in anger
You've got to live just like a family

Children of Abraham,I must be dreaming
Rivers of blood running thru your hands
Children crying, mothers screaming
It just doesn't seem the Promised Land


so in the end it all comes down too
nothing more, nothing less
just plan and simply
DEATH IN GAZA


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 Post subject: Re: Death in Gaza
PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:21 pm
  

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" for you don't count the dead, when God's on your side...." Zimmy


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:15 pm
  

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"Not really much to say about it is there? Just DEATH IN GAZA!"

Yes there is so much more to say about it...


Fix It


"so in the end it all comes down too
nothing more, nothing less
just plan and simply
DEATH IN GAZA"

There may be those that believe this problem can't be solved.

Which only highlights the fact that the world could use more goofy and passionate people right about now.



PS: While it may be pretty to think I have only recently become goofy and pasionate, that is not the case. If you enjoy black licorice, you'll love absinthe, now made in America@TM


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:46 pm
  

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To paraphrase George Elliot:

"It's never too late to become the people we might have been".


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 Post subject: Re: Death in Gaza
PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 4:15 pm
  

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Hey guys,

I would like to look at this from a different perspective just for a moment.
I am like most of you, I’m appalled at the death and destruction, especially with kids.
It is absolutely, definitely heart breaking at times.

However, the conflicts in the mid east have been going on a long time.
One can go back as far as the first Egyptian dynasty of Narmer in 3100BC.
So if you take 3100 BC add it to 2009 AD that give s total of 5109 years of strife.
The conflict centers around ideologies and religion.
I have no doubt will continue to do so for the next thousand years.
There is simply too much hate and animosity to disappear in one generation.

The only reason we hear so much or are involved is because of our need for excess energy, namely oil.
I am quite sure, if it were no for this, most of the events there would go virtually unnoticed here, as they do with other places.

I still feel so sorry for the kids though that will eventually have these ‘stupid’ ideas drilled into their heads over time and pick up where the ‘Death in Gaza’ leaves off to continue it all over again, and the dreadful cost in young lives here.

Since so many here are interested in music, I'll para-phrase from a 1967 song, "It's a strange, strange world we live in, Master Jack".

Ron


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