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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 9:46 pm
  

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And guess who was in charge of Iraqi security training when it happened? The guy who's now commanding the US forces in Iraq, General Petraeus! Oye!

This from the Washington Post:

The Pentagon has lost track of about 190,000 AK-47 assault rifles and pistols given to Iraqi security forces in 2004 and 2005, according to a new government report, raising fears that some of those weapons have fallen into the hands of insurgents fighting U.S. forces in Iraq.

The report from the Government Accountability Office indicates that U.S. military officials do not know what happened to 30 percent of the weapons the United States distributed to Iraqi forces from 2004 through early this year as part of an effort to train and equip the troops. The highest previous estimate of unaccounted-for weapons was 14,000, in a report issued last year by the inspector general for Iraq reconstruction.

The United States has spent $19.2 billion trying to develop Iraqi security forces since 2003, the GAO said, including at least $2.8 billion to buy and deliver equipment. But the GAO said weapons distribution was haphazard and rushed and failed to follow established procedures, particularly from 2004 to 2005, when security training was led by Gen. David H. Petraeus, who now commands all U.S. forces in Iraq.

Read the rest at: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20137021/

"Well it's one, two, three ... what are we fighting for?"


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:20 am
  

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2,4,6,8 who would we like to decimate. Bush, bush BUSH.
In the 21th Century we can feed People much easier than shock and awe. Bush has around 500 days to learn that.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 9:53 am
  

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hey, if they can microchip your dog...........ya know what I'm sayin'?


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 10:39 pm
  

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1,2,3 what are we fightin for, don't ask me I don't give a D*#m, the next step is Iran !

That song got Country Joe blacklisted for decades...now he's back on tour with Hippie Fest !! Are the times a changing ? "Be the first one on the block to have your boy come home in a box" seems about the same today as it did then.

Who said "those who can't remember the past are condemed to repeat it" ?

In addition to the arms what about the ten's of billions in cash that vanished. I could use a few bucks to pay my mobil card.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 9:47 am
  

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Kevin-MusicRx wrote:
1,2,3 what are we fightin for, don't ask me I don't give a D*#m, the next step is Iran !

That song got Country Joe blacklisted for decades...now he's back on tour with Hippie Fest !! Are the times a changing ? "Be the first one on the block to have your boy come home in a box" seems about the same today as it did then.

Who said "those who can't remember the past are condemed to repeat it" ?

In addition to the arms what about the ten's of billions in cash that vanished. I could use a few bucks to pay my mobil card.


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Progress, far from consisting in change, depends on retentiveness. When change is absolute there remains no being to improve and no direction is set for possible improvement: and when experience is not retained, as among savages, infancy is perpetual. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. In the first stage of life the mind is frivolous and easily distracted, it misses progress by failing in consecutiveness and persistence. This is the condition of children and barbarians, in which instinct has learned nothing from experience.
George Santayana (1863 - 1952), The Life of Reason, Volume 1, 1905



Country Joe was not blacklisted. He certainly suffered cancelled gigs, and a lack of invitations domestically for a period, but blacklisting is when they shut you out entirely... read up on him here


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 9:09 pm
  

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Arnie,

Thanks for the clarification....and the quote. When I said blacklisted I was quoting Jerry Garcia............someone who worked to recover Joe's career in music. I did not view your link yet but I have never seen him on tour in New England, ever (since 1976 when I started going to concerts).......until this year's hippie fest, perhaps he "dropped out" for reasons other.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 11:19 pm
  

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Hey, if the United Nations who gave Israel their Land back has declared the Iraq invasion illegal, which they have, Bush and company may face justice by someone.
Though adg says justice is for the faint of heart, i love Tobey Keith's and Willie Nelson's song Beer for my horses, and wiskey for my Men. Where Tobey and Willie sing, "Take all the rope in Texas find a tall oak tree. Hang up all of them bad-boys for all the terroist to see." (I can't spell)


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 11:26 pm
  

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They tell the story at WoodyFest about the year that Country Joe headlined. He greatly offended Mary Jo's husband, who said he'd never play there again, and he never has been asked back again. You know what number he did, to the great delight of the audience ....


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