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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 6:27 pm
  

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Did you 49 afterwoards Cheryl?


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Hey, I awoke to lIttleTexas's Song on CMT. Dog blest Texas. I always sang it Rocking down angels from the promised land. That was in 94, 2 years before Arlo's Door of Heaven.
None of you will give me a chance, so why should I tell you about the man 4 days latter who told me about a war in heaven that dragged stars out of the sky, in Revelation 12. Or the establishment growing up to heaven and trampling stars in and hosts in Daniel 8:9-14, which I didn't find until 95.
You all seem to know so much, except the truth of these last days. I like to call them the beginning of a new age.
Number Nine far from a Abbey Road Condo in Lemon-minister, must never go to the big apple, where the days were shortened by John Lennon's death.


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Leo, I am devistated! I invite you to a Pow Wow and you say i won't give you a chance? What? I am going to be honest you seem to have a special take on reality but that is OK, honest, I don't mind! You know when it comes to Pow wow, I prefer the traditional dancers, the fancy dancers aer more popular I know, but I prefer the traditional dancer (best i ever saw was Comanche). Best singer i ever heard was either Kiowa or Cheyenne (not sure which cause both weas at that one but that old guy could do it). Let's see RB, you got native blood, I bet you been to 49?


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As long as Number Nine, doesn't do the big apple, everything will be fine.
That is just a cold hard truth of these times. A man who didn't know me from Adam, told me that on the Penn Turnpike heading east. I had just seen a preacher on TV telling the people, John Lennon was burning in hell, for singing Imagine there is no heaven or hell. It hit me then, and the man on the turnpike, who didn't know me from Adam, backed it up.
The Indians had a code of unity among all things. We ain't got that now.


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Leo, I gotta say you come up with some strange shit man? I don't know any other way to say it!


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It is all just what happened in my life.


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i was going to say something, but nevermind!


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i was going to say something, but nevermind!


agnes, your nevermind is better than most folks' something...


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PSBeaty wrote:
Witchi Tai Tai


"Water spirits, Spring is ringing 'round my head.
Makes me feel glad that I'm not dead!
Witchi tai tai, Kemo-ra, whoa-ra nika, whoa-ra nika,
Hey-nay, hey-nay no-ah!"

or something like that.


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A little Jim Pepper this morning!

I love this time of year in the morning it is like a free free jazz concert every morning. All you got to do is open the windows .........
THat is it! Where I live there is a full orchestra outside playing truly impressive free jazz with a minimalist vertical counterpoise...BIRDS..You gotta love em. If listen...just listen, you get Ornette and Terry Riley and Reich and John Adams and Anthony Braxton and Sitting Bull all for free...Its great!

I say Sitting Bull because...here are some of my experiences in Pow Wow ...I have only been to Plains Pow Wow with Plains tribes (I am not "Native" myself but I am Okie and had the good fortune to have been befriended by many Natives in my past). I might get a little abstract here but...the best Pow Wow are on a early summer or early fall night when the feeling at sundown is just naturally cosmic with a colorful sky. The best is in an isolated area away from things modern. Light is an important aspect and I have experienced both electric light and fire light and I prefer the later but the former is OK (if done well, but natives are not particularly detail oriented). To me the light is important as it creates reflections and (OK I know this is a bit weird) but the whole idea of Pow Wow is to create a reflection of the intangible force of nature. The basis of this force is the creation of a rhythm and there is a group of drummers usually around two or three large drums and the idea is to separate time into its natural harmonic divisions (your not flat or sharp but right on that node) to set the stage to adjust all the participants to the same frequency (this is not an easy thing to describe here, trust me). Now the idea is to get a group in tune to huddle around and sing. I am talking a Physchic or cosmic tuning here. The songs are extremely rhythym based and simple repititions (similiar to minimalism and the Bird Songs in the morning). Now ultimately the idea is that this group of people will align their brain energy and cosmic base, its not about the individual or soloist, its about merging all this human energy as a group or family and making a unison OOMMMMM (you may be more familiar with this term). THe more these people lose their conciousness of one another and act in unison in there rhythm and harmonics then the more powerful the effect. THe sound is a vertical sound like a flame burning and building into the heavens and hopefully you have that full mix of voices with the Bass and baritones following the drums and the Baritone Tenors and Tenors filling in the chant and when it gets intense and hot the cryers send it into space and when the reflection of the light is an illumniation of their faces and the power of their voices and that thing is created and your conciousness just dissolves and you feel in harmony with everybody and everything and (I know i know) but when it gets that intense that is when the dancing gets cooking and the idea of the dancers is to translate that intensity into motion, relect that sound and unison into motion and its best in the dark with campfires and the motion is just a reflection of the light. The best thing to do as an observer if you ever get a chance to truly experience this is to get into the huddles and feel the unity and natural harmony and lose conciousness in the overwhelming sound with them but also break away and if you are lucky you can go about 50 yards preferably on a rise and look down upon this and listen to it from a distance with a veiw of horizon and put it into its natural setting. It is so amazing! then you 49. I was always fond of Peyote myself.

If any Natives read this, did I get it right?


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also,

You can ask but nobody has ever told me why they call 49 49!

49 is equivalent to the parking lot/campfire parties after the main show at bluegrass/folk festivals. I was told it means 49 stories. In that movie Dances with Wolves, they are essentially at 49 after the successful buffalo hunt where the character played by Kevin Costner gets involved in a dispute about his hat that was lost during the days hunt. As a non Native, sometimes you need to be conscious of the environment at a 49 particularly when there are those you don't know around. Native people are generally very very good people but there remains an engrained issue with those of the Caucasian persuasion. That history of racial intolerance and domination is slow to fade!


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Thanks for the info. I had no idea what a 49 was. We didn't get to stay for the whole Pow-Wow cuz it started raining so our friends decided to leave early. Hardly saw any dancing only the crafts & drummers & some eating cuz the rain stopped the dancing. Well it gave me some time to get some shopping done. Maybe they did a rain dance lol...


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i am part native (my grandfather was half indian half irish)
and i still can't tell you all about 49in :)

and i might not be familiar will all the people you've mentioned up there (i do remember jim pepper though and that witchi tai tai song from before) i am 100 percent there with you on the birds thing, that is precisiely right...it is a full on concert! although i do remember one morning they were out there sounding like a bunch of drunken sailors...i don't know what that was all about...

they was kind of quiet out there this morning though...it looks like it is going to rain too.

anyway about people songs...last night i put some ron warren back in the CD player. the exact one is called "morning star evening star" (double CD!) and it is gorgeous! i got some good stuff from r carlos nakai too like canyon trilogy and sundance season are the first two that come to mind...if you like that kind of thing...and i do!


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http://www.amazon.com/NORMAN-JETHRO-VAS ... 18&sr=1-16
http://www.amazon.com/Conference-Birds- ... 64&sr=1-11

Agnes looka at these!

or this
http://www.amazon.com/Morning-Bugle-Joh ... 304&sr=1-1


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