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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 12:02 pm
  

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It is when he does it acoustic. The Rock and Roll Animal version would be a little harder to pass as folk...


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 12:21 pm
  

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i suppose so...i mean it sounds like he is singing about what he sees and how he feels about it...abstract as it might be? i guess i haven't tried to put a strict definition to what a folk song is in my mind...i like to hear what different people have to say in songs sometimes, and wonder sometimes what they mean, other times i just like the overall sound and don't really know what to say for myself?


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:16 pm
  

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To digress somewhat, and momentarily...there was an interview with ADG in Guitar International in December, in which he discussed his views on what makes folk music folk music:

"A lot of people confuse folk music with being a genre. It’s really not. What it is, it’s the way that people learn the music they’re playing. When you study it in school or when you read it in a book or take a course in it or when you can write it in music notation that’s generally on the classical side of things and that’s a great tradition. Nothing wrong with it.

"But the folk music side of it is the kind of music that you learn by ear that you heard from a record or from a friend of yours on the street and all of the music that we’re hearing on the radio today. In the old days we didn’t have all these marketing devices to separate them all into genre like bluegrass or blues or rock ‘n’ roll. That’s all folk music.

"I wouldn’t confuse folk music with the guy standing there with a guitar humming’ about the state of the world. You can do that in a death speed metal kind of way. You can do it in a glam rock way. I mean all of these different genres are all folk music because everybody learned to play it the same way."

http://guitarinternational.com/wpmu/201 ... o-guthrie/

I don't know what I think about this. It's interesting, and I guess Lou Reed falls on the "folk" side regardless of how he's playing "Sweet Jane". But here's one thing I wonder about: Can something that starts as "folk" become "classical" based on who's playing it and how they were trained? When Arlo plays with the symphony, is his music suddenly classical because everybody but him on stage is reading notes as they play?

So...to get back to the "strangely talented" them: here are the "folk" and "classical" versions of the same song:

Folk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z86JjfoQ ... re=related
Classical: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIJnAMhjR4A

Though the "lead" guy in the second seems to be more of a folk musician here since he has the music, but isn't really reading it most of the time.

I'm probably thinking too hard about this.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:44 pm
  

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so i guess i am back where i started...it is pretty much anyone's guess unless you actually know :)

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..............I'm probably thinking too hard about this.


well i for one like hearing from you.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:36 pm
  

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a bit of an interlude i guess
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgIN70r-knw


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 2:32 am
  

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agnes wrote:
i suppose so...i mean it sounds like he is singing about what he sees and how he feels about it...abstract as it might be? i guess i haven't tried to put a strict definition to what a folk song is in my mind...i like to hear what different people have to say in songs sometimes, and wonder sometimes what they mean, other times i just like the overall sound and don't really know what to say for myself?


Yeah. I guess by that definition most songs are folk songs. They are generally sung by folks.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:08 pm
  

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i guess so...
but anyway, that cold turkey clip you posted startled me a bit...then again at times i have startled myself...

but it reminds me now, how did them electric cigs you were talking about work? i swear i'd never even heard of them. i don't smoke, but i guess i am thinking, if you are trying to quit i hope you are successful.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:12 pm
  

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4WtuAL_ ... playnext=2

more folk songs for the great folksong controversy..isn't that a dixie chick father on pedal steel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7DB5rclU1M

little ponty bone on the squeezetones....go down to stubb's and have some bar b q


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:31 pm
  

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agnes wrote:
i guess so...
but anyway, that cold turkey clip you posted startled me a bit...then again at times i have startled myself...

but it reminds me now, how did them electric cigs you were talking about work? i swear i'd never even heard of them. i don't smoke, but i guess i am thinking, if you are trying to quit i hope you are successful.

(in my best automated voice)
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR CON-TRI-BU-TION TO THE FOR-EST FAIR-Y RE-HA-BI-LI-TA-TION FUND. **CLICK**


The ecigs worked well. I was able to quit them real easy and go back to the real ones. My 32 year old kid has been using them successfully since November.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:41 pm
  

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I know I've posted this before, but I just like watching it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2bCc0EGP6U


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:03 am
  

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late night concert!

well, i heard this on the radio today, never heard it before and kinda liked it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oh8zcbC_Dcw


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:09 pm
  

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then i have always liked this one (pardon any ads)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eebfMFzJHNs

i have posted it before but here it is.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:09 pm
  

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speaking of folk songs and folk processes...?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjDu3E5zDks

as pointed out in the comments on the previous vid.

apparently i am more familiar with the green day song than the kinks song

(red face)

i like both songs though...and oddly enough (?) for different reasons

on a somewhat unrelated note, yet i am somehow reminded of this...i remember once being introduced to jess who was arlo's merch girl at one time, and at one of the shows after that, i looked over by the merch table to see if maybe she was there and saw a different girl and i am like, well that is not jess, i wonder if she will be here this time? and then a bit later notice jess who is walking over to the table and i am like, oh, there she is! then started noticing that the girl who was already there began to resemble jess a bit to me when i realize that she is her identical twin sister whom i had never met but had heard about...never even occurred to me until i saw them together. no drastically different hairstyle or anything like that. not sure what that was all about...


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:45 pm
  

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agnes wrote:
speaking of folk songs and folk processes...?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjDu3E5zDks

as pointed out in the comments on the previous vid.

apparently i am more familiar with the green day song than the kinks song

(red face)


That just shows how much younger you are than some of us old farts.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 5:18 am
  

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I remember her and her sister. They were such a hoot trying to fool folks as to who is who. Hope they're doing alright. I wonder what happened to them?


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