ArloNet • Is it possible for one person to earn a billion dollars..

Goofus · **Posted:** Sat Feb 04, 2012 12:21 am

Jafo wrote:

nortonkevin wrote:

That's because there isn't any. Jafo is delusional, misinformed, and lacks maturity and critical thinking skills. He needs a giant clam encounter. I will leave these threads to him........I am weary of trying to hold an intellectual debate with a plastic lawn chair.

After I soundly defeat all your "arguments" this is all you have? Well, I will not reply in kind, rather: just have a nice day Kevin.

As for the other two, who cares what liars think. I certainly do not. They could not come up with a reasoned argument, so they lie.. I am used to such tactics from the deranged left.

The only thing you have soundly defeated here is reason. If you have not run for office, you should truly pursue it.

I'm not proud, or tired. You are centered...but lost.

Jafo · **Posted:** Sat Feb 04, 2012 9:43 am

Goofus wrote:

The only thing you have soundly defeated here is reason. If you have not run for office, you should truly pursue it.

I'm not proud, or tired. You are centered...but lost.

Liars are better suited for office.. When are you running?

heraclitis · **Joined:** Jul 17, 2010 **Posts:** 1375

Jafo wrote:

Liars are better suited for office..

and this is what we have come to

Goofus · **Posted:** Sat Feb 04, 2012 4:24 pm

Jafo wrote:

Goofus wrote:

The only thing you have soundly defeated here is reason. If you have not run for office, you should truly pursue it.

I'm not proud, or tired. You are centered...but lost.

Liars are better suited for office.. When are you running?

Your the only one that called me a liar.

Jafo · **Posted:** Sat Feb 04, 2012 6:50 pm

Goofus wrote:

Your the only one that called me a liar.

Don't you mean, exposed you as a liar? See, I actually provided the evidence. You and your little buddy Heraclitorous..

heraclitis · **Joined:** Jul 17, 2010 **Posts:** 1375

Jafo wrote:

Goofus wrote:

Your the only one that called me a liar.

Don't you mean, exposed you as a liar? See, I actually provided the evidence. You and your little buddy Heraclitorous..

Just very very sad!

Jafo · **Posted:** Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:16 pm

heraclitis wrote:

Just very very sad!

Yes, yes you are.

Jafo · **Posted:** Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:40 pm

Oh, and just to keep it clear, this is why you are a liar:

heraclitis wrote:

This is from a guy who said "we can eliminate 40% of the debt by defaulting on social security". He failed to mention it would increase your taxes by an equal amount. I read it myself right over yonder.So you got take whatever he says with about 17 or 18 grains of salt!

Jafo wrote:

I have given you the benefit of the doubt when you misquote me for a while now, but you have done it so much lately that the only logical conclusion is, that you sir are a liar. I never said that. In fact, I challenge you to find where I said we could eliminate 40% of the debt by defaulting on social security. Not only are you apparently insane, you are a bald faced liar too.

In fact, here is what I said on this page:

viewtopic.php?f=12&t=14420&start=105

I defeat everything you say, it pisses you off, so you MAKE UP stuff and then tell everyone I said it. The fact is, you have no legs to stand on anymore and your credibility is shot.

Goofus · **Posted:** Sun Feb 05, 2012 2:44 am

Jafo wrote:

Goofus wrote:

Your the only one that called me a liar.

Don't you mean, exposed you as a liar? See, I actually provided the evidence. You and your little buddy Heraclitorous..

Nope that's not what I mean. Like I said before...

Jafo · **Posted:** Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:54 am

Exhibit B:

Goofus wrote:

The only real fact I can see in what you say is that because you don't need them, you don't want to pay for them. I resent your attitude. I have presented nothing that wasn't a fact. A little research on some of your facts shows that you are definitely not hitting the 100% mark. I see these programs as my obligation. I also see them as yours or my salvation should life whip our ass.

Jafo wrote:

You see government as your salvation... That is sad, truly sad.

Goofus wrote:

I don't see government as my salvation, and you may want to reconsider being so cocky about your good fortune. .

Exposed.

agnes · **Joined:** Sep 15, 1999 **Posts:** 8352

heraclitis wrote:

Jafo wrote:

Goofus wrote:

Your the only one that called me a liar.

Don't you mean, exposed you as a liar? See, I actually provided the evidence. You and your little buddy Heraclitorous..

Just very very sad!

i agree with you heraclitis, it is like bizarro world

something from the beginning of this thread, on page 1 and 2

Goofus wrote:

You are right about one thing Jafo, Alice is big on that insurance thing. She has been known to buy life insurance on her workers. No benefit to their families, just to the big

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Jafo wrote:

I hear a lot of slogans and cliches, but no facts here.. I could reply to the last three posts with nortonkevins direct impersonal response of "it is pure donkey-shit" and if all things being equal, I just made some kind of point.

I think what I am learning here is that many people believe it is somehow evil to earn or otherwise legally acquire a billion dollars. I think it is funny that a mugshot of Alice Walton being booked on a DWI charge is used to create some kind of illusion that this person is some natural capitalist criminal; off to the group W bench Alice.. Considering the plethora of mugshots coming out of the occupy protests, I would think that kind of coloring of the facts would be considered bad taste.

I am not going to make this a political argument, because I think Bush, Clinton, Obama, FDR, Reagan, Johnson, etc., are for all intents and purposes, the same person, just packaged for different audiences. It is pointless to say we are here because of President X or Senator Y. It is a diversion.

Goofus wrote:

Jafo wrote:

I hear a lot of slogans and cliches, but no facts here.. I could reply to the last three posts with nortonkevins direct impersonal response of "it is pure donkey-shit" and if all things being equal, I just made some kind of point.

I think what I am learning here is that many people believe it is somehow evil to earn or otherwise legally acquire a billion dollars. I think it is funny that a mugshot of Alice Walton being booked on a DWI charge is used to create some kind of illusion that this person is some natural capitalist criminal; off to the group W bench Alice.. Considering the plethora of mugshots coming out of the occupy protests, I would think that kind of coloring of the facts would be considered bad taste.

I am not going to make this a political argument, because I think Bush, Clinton, Obama, FDR, Reagan, Johnson, etc., are for all intents and purposes, the same person, just packaged for different audiences. It is pointless to say we are here because of President X or Senator Y. It is a diversion.

Not sure what you are talking about. The life insurance thing is a documented fact. Look it up.

Jafo · **Posted:** Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:02 am

Agnes, put the pipe down.. You apparently do not understand what you are doing..

Goofus · **Posted:** Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:45 pm

Uh...You are the only one that understands what you are doing.

heraclitis · **Joined:** Jul 17, 2010 **Posts:** 1375

Jafo wrote:

Agnes, put the pipe down.. You apparently do not understand what you are doing..

It seems to me the zealous must make the world fit all their assumptions. Jafo's vision of the world requires a great amount of conformity on the part of the world and its inhabitants. Of course, Jafo's vision is not new. It has been tested plenty of times. Even staunch empire building autocrat-supporters as Winston Churchill have noted the failure of Free Market Capitalism and its tendency to undervalue human life. Jafo, undaunted, will continue to belittle all who disagree with him with undying faith in the truth as it exists in his mind!

I personally have my own delusions I must deal with and try my best to keep a clear head and an objective mind!

A model is Religion. Confronted with the reality of the universe or evolution, the religious get wacky and scream heresy to the point that they inevitably look silly.

In this case it is Free Market Capitalism being confronted with greed. Screams of heresy begin with a litany of reasons why greed is not all bad and of course ultimately, the socialist dupes are incapable of understanding the truth.

Jafo · **Posted:** Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:03 pm

The problem with Free Market Capitalism is that it has never really been tried. At best we get crony capitalism. The problem is, meddlers like Heraclitis can't leave it alone, they always try to use to either enrich themselves, or even worse, engineer society. When they get done with all their little experiments supposedly aimed at creating equality, all you have left is some system that people may CALL capitalism, but it is just a well intentioned road to hell.

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