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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 8:25 pm
  

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The 2nd video is not the Bundys and has nothing to do with them. It shows another land grab by the BLM which is the only similarity. It's not even in the same state.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 9:20 pm
  

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Dragonfly wrote:
What this all boils down to is what the government, namely the BLM, is doing to the land. This will be the future of Malheur because the agencies want the gold and uranium at all costs to the people and that was the same reason they started in with the Bundy family.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... QjQInZd-PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcpzhOZ ... w4j5NToeSl



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i would like to learn more about the dann sisters and this story, thanks for sharing the video, but i know right away i am not going to conflate the two circumstances. not going to conflate the bundy's circumstance with the native americans' circumstance.


i never said the second clip was the bundys,and it is not a stretch for me to mention them!


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 9:27 pm
  

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Dragonfly wrote:
The 2nd video is not the Bundys and has nothing to do with them. It shows another land grab by the BLM which is the only similarity. It's not even in the same state.


oh look, they at least seem to be acquainted!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aeeclad8G3E


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 10:40 pm
  

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agnes wrote:
Dragonfly wrote:
The 2nd video is not the Bundys and has nothing to do with them. It shows another land grab by the BLM which is the only similarity. It's not even in the same state.


oh look, they at least seem to be acquainted!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aeeclad8G3E


Alright, so you have established that they know or knew each other. Ranchers are like that most likely since ranches are large pieces of property and buying and selling stock between ranchers is the norm. I worked with a lot of Cattlemen when I was a veterinary assistant at a large animal hospital and I also did ads for ranchers who were selling stock in another location. I know how it goes as far as farming and ranching is concerned.

There were others besides the ranchers who shot the video whose cattle were burned or died from the fires. And that's ok because the ranchers know the Bundys or because they ARE the Bundys? It's ok to burn cattle and horses to the point they either die of it or they have to be put down? And it's ok to burn people's homes down for? The gold in their land, perhaps? Yes, the gold - it's all about the money!


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 9:20 pm
  

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all i can say right now is; any corruption that might be going on needs to be investigated!

this may be helpful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVtQxEkRG9w (still in the middle of watching this one myself)

and this also. and i apologize for any hyperbole or slant, but there may be some worthwhile information here as well

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/2/11 ... y-lobbyist

everyone have a great weekend!


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 6:55 pm
  

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all i can say right now is; any corruption that might be going on needs to be investigated!

this may be helpful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVtQxEkRG9w (still in the middle of watching this one myself)

and this also. and i apologize for any hyperbole or slant, but there may be some worthwhile information here as well

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/2/11 ... y-lobbyist

everyone have a great weekend!


There is apparently too much corruption on the wrong side of the law to do any proper investigating.

In the mean time, I've been busy. Just got a chance to start going over the page you posted in the quote, here.

If the paper is claiming that's Ammon Bundy, talking in that video, they're wrong. I am very familiar with Ammon's voice and that's not it. None of the voices in that video are Ammon's, nor Ryan's for that matter.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 7:54 pm
  

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Dragonfly wrote:
agnes wrote:
all i can say right now is; any corruption that might be going on needs to be investigated!

this may be helpful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVtQxEkRG9w (still in the middle of watching this one myself)

and this also. and i apologize for any hyperbole or slant, but there may be some worthwhile information here as well

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/2/11 ... y-lobbyist

everyone have a great weekend!


There is apparently too much corruption on the wrong side of the law to do any proper investigating.

In the mean time, I've been busy. Just got a chance to start going over the page you posted in the quote, here.

If the paper is claiming that's Ammon Bundy, talking in that video, they're wrong. I am very familiar with Ammon's voice and that's not it. None of the voices in that video are Ammon's, nor Ryan's for that matter.



i did not conclude that that was bundy's voice, nor is that what i derived.

WTF?


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2016 10:21 pm
  

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agnes wrote:
Dragonfly wrote:
agnes wrote:
all i can say right now is; any corruption that might be going on needs to be investigated!

this may be helpful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVtQxEkRG9w (still in the middle of watching this one myself)

and this also. and i apologize for any hyperbole or slant, but there may be some worthwhile information here as well

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/2/11 ... y-lobbyist

everyone have a great weekend!


There is apparently too much corruption on the wrong side of the law to do any proper investigating.

In the mean time, I've been busy. Just got a chance to start going over the page you posted in the quote, here.

If the paper is claiming that's Ammon Bundy, talking in that video, they're wrong. I am very familiar with Ammon's voice and that's not it. None of the voices in that video are Ammon's, nor Ryan's for that matter.



i did not conclude that that was bundy's voice, nor is that what i derived.

WTF?


No, no, you misread what I said. I said the paper is claiming that, not you.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2016 11:07 pm
  

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agnes wrote:
Dragonfly wrote:
agnes wrote:
all i can say right now is; any corruption that might be going on needs to be investigated!

this may be helpful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVtQxEkRG9w (still in the middle of watching this one myself)

and this also. and i apologize for any hyperbole or slant, but there may be some worthwhile information here as well

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/2/11 ... y-lobbyist

everyone have a great weekend!


There is apparently too much corruption on the wrong side of the law to do any proper investigating.

In the mean time, I've been busy. Just got a chance to start going over the page you posted in the quote, here.

If the paper is claiming that's Ammon Bundy, talking in that video, they're wrong. I am very familiar with Ammon's voice and that's not it. None of the voices in that video are Ammon's, nor Ryan's for that matter.



i did not conclude that that was bundy's voice, nor is that what i derived.

WTF?



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No, no, you misread what I said. I said the paper is claiming that, not you.


if you are referring to the article i posted there, i am saying i did not derive that from the article either

the contents of both links are worth checking out


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:49 am
  

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I read and watch videos of all of these situations, all day long. I have my opinions, based on hour upon hour of research. That's all I can say. I'm not talking about this anymore.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:52 am
  

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