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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:33 am
  

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CASTLE ROCK, Colo. -Paul Ryan squeezed in time on a four-stop, five-state day for a conference call with evangelical voters Sunday evening, issuing a warning about a second Obama term saying the president is putting the country on a "dangerous path" that compromises "Judeo-Christian, Western civilization values."
Evangelical leader Ralph Reed's influential group, the Faith and Freedom Coalition, hosted the call and Reed said "tens of thousands" of Evangelical Christians were listening in.
The GOP vice presidential nominee said in the "critical battleground states" it will make a "big difference" if people "are worried about…whether or not we're going to go down the path the president has put us on."
"It's a dangerous path," Ryan said on his opening remarks on the call, which has been rescheduled at least once. "It's a path that grows government, restricts freedom and liberty, and compromises those values, those Judeo-Christian, Western civilization values that made us such a great an exceptional nation in the first place."
Ryan talks about his Catholic faith frequently on the trail, but this evening he went into more detail when a caller from Florida asked him how his faith has given him and his family courage throughout the campaign. Ryan said it "sustains us on a daily basis" and "we pray throughout the day," noting he keeps a rosary in his pocket.
"It keeps us, keeps us humble, it keeps us strong, it keeps us in a great place, it gives us peace of mind," Ryan said. "First prayer I say every morning is the serenity prayer."
He said the hometown priest at his Catholic church in Janesville, Wis., emailed Sunday night with a message: "Just have no fear."
"And that's how the Lord sustains me," Ryan said. "No fear…It's the prayer from my pastor, my family, with my family, and also it's the prayers that are offered to me from perfect strangers that I know are out there praying, for Mitt and myself, and our families, and our families are doing great."
Ryan, who's been with his three young children and wife, Janna on the road for several days said they are doing "very, very well" and they have been doing homework on the road this week.
"It's because so many people around this country are praying for us and offering their prayers and coming up and giving us so many mementos that show they really care about this country and that they're praying for us," Ryan said.
As he does on the stump, he criticized Obama for the administration's mandate that hospitals and other employers affiliated with religious groups provide insurance coverage for contraception.
"We should not have to sue the federal government to keep our constitutional freedoms," Ryan said, referring to the Catholic Church's lawsuit over the mandate.

"Imagine what he would do if he actually got reelected. It just puts a chill down my spine," Ryan said.
On his whirlwind final sprint around the country delivering his closing pitch to voters, Ryan had one more event Sunday evening here in Castle Rock before traveling to Nevada ahead of another five-state, five-stop day.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:40 pm
  

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certainly, not voting for them = voting against god

(that green print is hard to read though)

i was hearing about this on the news earlier (i did not read the article as thoroughly as i should probably, but it seems to give the gist)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/0 ... 73119.html

i suppose i could put this here too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmPtfy9P714


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:34 pm
  

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I found this online and thought it was interesting:


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A message from Betty

To the citizens of the United States of America from Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II

In light of your failure in recent years to nominate competent candidates for President of the USA and thus to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective immediately. (You should look up 'revocation' in the Oxford English Dictionary.)

Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths, and...


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:51 pm
  

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After looking back on the last 30 years of things getting worse and worse, while leaning to the left for my social concerns, almost wish Romney wins so the heat would be turned up on the comfortably numb frogs, slowing getting cooked to death. No more bad-aids to keep the heat down. Then maybe enough will jump out in the streets with OWS.


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I hear you Leo, but throwing the baby out with the bath water is not a step forward.

Cheryl - If I understand you right, you not only consider setting our great country back 50 years or more by voting for mitt, but you are buying into the crap you posted above about re-fighting the revolutionary war?

Really?


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:13 am
  

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Nope. Wasn't buying into the stuff I found online and posted. I wouldn't want to do that. I just thought it was interesting there was apparently a group of folks not caring for either side and decided we might be better off going back to being under England. The reason I voted for Mitt was conservative morals. Someone who will stand up for good morals. :)


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:27 am
  

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holy crap

who cares about understanding the whole picture anyway...

when certain juicy nuggets get your attention and you can't see anything else beyond that...i guess it is just convenient?


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When you say good morals, do you mean stand up for what you believe in, day after day, never changing the message?

Or some meat lick who will say anything to get into office, changing message depending on who he's talking to, and controlled by hidden money with an agenda.

Cheryl, I leave judgement to a higher power.

If a pregnancy happens because a woman got raped, and you chose not to let her abort this fetus, are you going to pay to support the needs of it?

My guess is no.

How is that good morals?


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:34 pm
  

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How I see the reason for things going down hill over the last 3 decades, is the Preachers Goldwater warned us about in this photo, took over DC, on so called moral issues, while Man and wife, can't earn enough to raise kids if they want them. Have given up on the left for they have not had the guts to do anything about it.

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Leo, I wish you had stuck around to support him, I'm thinking the gloves come off once the polls no longer matter.

And if you don't think he brought change in his first term, read Annie's post re like 150 things he did do.

http://whattheheckhasobamadonesofar.com/

No guts? Read up, and then tell me you still feel that way.

Props to Annie for the post and link.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:16 pm
  

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DRR, All that is in that list are, if anything, are band-aids on shot-gun wounds. I read up unto how he cut Medicare costs. Obama made a back-room deal with Pharma, that Medicare would not be able to negotiate for a better price on Meds, which took the guts out of the whole 2000 page nonsense bill.

But my biggest bitch with both parties is America's insane Corporate Foreign Policy, and both sides of the Feds trash cash that funds it, to protect Corporate interests. Neither left nor right must see any wisdom in Washington's Farewell Address, (Or Ike's either.) about staying out of foreign entanglements. Over spending on the Military is what is breaking us apart, and soon enough, the USSR's fate in 89 or 90 will be ours.

Personally can not wait to see this Country shut down. The sooner the better off we will be in the long run.


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Im guessing you are refering to ACA. What about eliminating preexisting conditions, covering kids as defendants until 26. You may have lost some focus.

How many people will suffer a worse fate than today if the country. Needles human suffering. Look closer at what is really happening in the lives of the average American today. We both agree that we have seen wages fall to 60's levels. While at the same time prices have gone up out of sight.

As for your forlorn longing for the country to fail, go vote for mitt and say, bring it on.


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John Cleese's Letter to the USA

To the citizens of the United States of America, in light of your failure to elect a competent President of the USA and thus to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective today.

Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II resumes monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths and other territories. Except Utah, which she does not fancy.

Your new prime minister (The Right Honourable Tony Blair, MP for the 97.8% of you who have, until now, been unaware there's a world outside your borders) will appoint a Minister for America. Congress and the Senate are disbanded. A questionnaire circulated next year will determine whether any of you noticed.

To aid your transition to a British Crown Dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate effect:

1. Look up "revocation" in the Oxford English Dictionary. Check "aluminium" in the pronunciation guide. You will be amazed at just how wrongly you pronounce it. The letter 'U' will be reinstated in words such as 'favour' and 'neighbour'. Likewise you will learn to spell 'doughnut' without skipping half the letters. Generally, you should raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels. Look up "vocabulary."

Using the same twenty seven words interspersed with filler noises such as "like" and "you know" is an unacceptable and inefficient form of communication. Look up "interspersed." There will be no more 'bleeps' in the Jerry Springer show. If you're not old enough to cope with bad language then you should not have chat shows.

2. There is no such thing as "U.S. English." We'll let Microsoft know on your behalf. The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to take account of the reinstated letter 'u'.

3. You should learn to distinguish English and Australian accents. It really isn't that hard. English accents are not limited to cockney, upper-class twit or Mancunian (Daphne in Frasier). Scottish dramas such as 'Taggart' will no longer be broadcast with subtitles.You must learn that there is no such place as Devonshire in England. The name of the county is "Devon." If you persist in calling it Devonshire, all American States will become "shires" e.g. Texasshire Floridashire, Louisianashire.

4. You should relearn your original national anthem, "God Save The Queen", but only after fully carrying out task 1.

5. You should stop playing American "football." There's only one kind of football. What you call American "football" is not a very good game. The 2.1% of you aware there is a world outside your borders may have noticed no one else plays "American" football. You should instead play proper football. Initially, it would be best if you played with the girls.

Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to play rugby (which is similar to American "football", but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour like nancies).

You should stop playing baseball. It's not reasonable to host an event called the 'World Series' for a game which is not played outside of America. Instead of baseball, you will be allowed to play a girls' game called "rounders," which is baseball without fancy team stripe, oversized gloves, collector cards or hotdogs.

6. You will no longer be allowed to own or carry guns, or anything more dangerous in public than a vegetable peeler. Because you are not sensible enough to handle potentially dangerous items, you need a permit to carry a vegetable peeler.

7. July 4th is no longer a public holiday. November 2nd will be a new national holiday. It will be called "Indecisive Day."

8. All American cars are hereby banned. They are crap and it is for your own good. When we show you German cars, you will understand what we mean. All road intersections will be replaced with roundabouts, and you will start driving on the left. At the same time, you will go metric without the benefit of conversion tables. Roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the British sense of humour.

9. Learn to make real chips. Those things you call French fries are not real chips. Fries aren't French, they're Belgian though 97.8% of you (including the guy who discovered fries while in Europe) are not aware of a country called Belgium. Potato chips are properly called "crisps." Real chips are thick cut and fried in animal fat. The traditional accompaniment to chips is beer which should be served warm and flat.

10. The cold tasteless stuff you call beer is actually lager. Only proper British Bitter will be referred to as "beer." Substances once known as "American Beer" will henceforth be referred to as "Near-Frozen Gnat's Urine," except for the product of the American Budweiser company which will be called "Weak Near-Frozen Gnat's Urine." This will allow true Budweiser (as manufactured for the last 1000 years in Pilsen, Czech Republic) to be sold without risk of confusion.

11. The UK will harmonise petrol prices (or "Gasoline," as you will be permitted to keep calling it) for those of the former USA, adopting UK petrol prices (roughly $6/US gallon, get used to it).

12. Learn to resolve personal issues without guns, lawyers or therapists. That you need many lawyers and therapists shows you're not adult enough to be independent. If you're not adult enough to sort things out without suing someone or speaking to a therapist, you're not grown up enough to handle a gun.

13. Please tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us crazy.

14. Tax collectors from Her Majesty's Government will be with you shortly to ensure the acquisition of all revenues due (backdated to 1776).

Thank you for your co-operation.

* John Cleese
[Basil Fawlty, Fawlty Towers, Torquay, Devon, England]


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:16 pm
  

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agnes wrote:
holy crap

who cares about understanding the whole picture anyway...

when certain juicy nuggets get your attention and you can't see anything else beyond that...i guess it is just convenient?


in case there was any confusion, that was in response to this:

Cheryl Harrell wrote:
The reason I voted for Mitt was conservative morals. Someone who will stand up for good morals. :)


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:44 pm
  

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I will not settle for band-aids in this 21st Century, which is on a good start to make the 20th look peaceful.

What this Leonard Cohen song asks about what it means to repent today, is that the Bankers hold a big party for the people, to make up for what they have done to us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D97OxHZz ... 330FC89D8C

If the Bankers don't, we will shut them down as in this other Leonard Cohen Song, Firts We Take Manhattan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcWxi8U9 ... 330FC89D8C


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