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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:11 pm
  

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The media have portrayed Rep. Paul Ryan as a courageous reformer who is offering serious solutions to fix the country's finances. In reality, Ryan is an ideologue who offers fraudulent proposals that would hurt low and middle income Americans and put the social safety net in jeopardy. Media Matters looks at what the media should know about Paul Ryan and his policies.

Media Have Portrayed Ryan As A Serious and Responsible Reformer

1. Ryan Wants Low And Middle Income Americans To "Bear The Entire Burden" Of His Fiscal Reforms
2. Ryan Plan Would Drastically Hurt Medicare And Medicaid Recipients
3. Ryan Has A Fraudulent Plan To Reduce The Deficit
4. Fiscal Hawk? Ryan Supported Policies That Caused Massive Deficits
5. Ryan Has Repeatedly Proposed Partially Privatizing Social Security
6. Ryan Is A Historically Ideological VP Nominee Pick
7. Paul Ryan: George W. Bush Endorsed

Full analysis of each of the above items at:

http://mediamatters.org/research/2012/0 ... aul/189277


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:23 pm
  

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His selection seems to have energized the bases of BOTH parties!

Would like to hear the folkslinger weigh in on the election.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:09 pm
  

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:39 am
  

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He is a child of the great post 60's conservative backlash. He has voted to repeal credit regulations (support of a mercantile economy) and increase military spending (support of a mercantile economy).

He also voted for the great Bank Bailout (support of a mercantile economy).

He believes in a minimal constitutional government with the only objective of defending individual rights (the tea party approach to wealth defines rights not the people). His propaganda is a call for an unregulated free market (something he has voted against repeatedly as all real conservative republicans do) and a trickle down economic philosophy (the untouchable give the wealthy money and power and they will take care of the rest).

In practice that means mercantile capitalism with policies that support the wealthy (an aristocracy based on wealth) without any democratic socialism at all (no broad based community investment or development).

It is pretty clear where he stands and how he got there!


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 1:12 pm
  

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The Five Fatal Flaws of Romney's Ryan Veep Pick

August 12, 2012
By Tim Dickinson

1) Who's the Boss?

Romney is the most awkward GOP nominee since George H.W. Bush. Ideally, he ought to have picked a dutiful, competent running-mate who wouldn't risk upstaging him. But Romney – like McCain before him – felt he needed a game changer. So he went with Ryan, a man who electrifies the party base far more than he ever could. At the ceremony where he introduced Ryan, Romney looked less like he was introducing his new side kick, and more like he was passing the torch to the party's replacement nominee – an impression Romney gaffetastically reinforced by lauding Ryan as "the next president of the United States!"


2) All Right, Right Now!?

For all the talk of Etch-a-Sketching a more centrist Romney for the general election, the Ryan pick actually drags Romney farther to the right than he was willing to venture during the primary, when he refused to go the Full Ryan. In winning the nomination, Romney left significant daylight between his own, pragmatic brand of free-market conservatism and the heartless, New-Deal rollback championed his radical future runningmate and the radically unpopular GOP-run House. Over the weekend, that daylight vanished. The Ryan Budget has become Romney's de-facto platform – and possibly his electoral albatross.

3) Don't Tax Me, Bro

Romney has been twisting in the wind over his tax returns. But the Ryan pick doesn't change the subject, it just raises more difficult questions. Like: "Governor Romney, do you really think you deserve to pay nothing in taxes?"

The Ryan plan, unlike the proposals that Romney put forward in the primaries, would zero out taxes on capital gains and dividends, the vast bulk of Romney's earnings. Now, Harry Reid may have been full of shit when he gossiped about Romney not paying taxes for 10 years; but if the Ryan plan were to pass – and top Romney adviser Ed Gillespie insisted Sunday that "of course" it would be law by now had Romney been president – Mitt would pay nothing in taxes going forward.

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/bl ... k-20120812


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 3:58 pm
  

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Romney did introduce him as the next president... of course he might of been referring to the 2016 election... :D


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:27 pm
  

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What do you expect from these people? They are trying to make right wing socialism more palatable. Dave, you are a right wing socialist, right, what do you think?


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:12 am
  

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZycT6zmaYoU
America uber alles, the fatherland, the fatherland!!!!

God on our side. Tell me, what the hell does god have to do with inalienable rights anyway? Why do people actually get away with saying stupid shit like this without somebody saying, WTF?

this guy is america!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQwrB1vu ... re=related


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:00 am
  

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while i am not a romney fan,

i am still not on board with ron paul either (re: the blurb at the end of the second clip)


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:07 pm
  

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heraclitis wrote:
What do you expect from these people? They are trying to make right wing socialism more palatable. Dave, you are a right wing socialist, right, what do you think?



Right wing socialism? :shock:

I doubt if I'm the only one who sees that as an oxymoron.



Is it just me, or does anyone else think Paul Ryan bears some resemblance to Soupy Sales with a slightly better hairdo?


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:11 pm
  

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Suggesting that the newly affected repairs are tossed out by the "RR [fast]Track" would we call that Romneyulan hospitality or the Ryan's Express?

Live long and don't prosper. :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:16 pm
  

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DrCharbonneau wrote:
heraclitis wrote:
What do you expect from these people? They are trying to make right wing socialism more palatable. Dave, you are a right wing socialist, right, what do you think?



Right wing socialism? :shock:

I doubt if I'm the only one who sees that as an oxymoron.


Good Idea, lets all act like we have never heard of the Department of Defense and the Department of Agriculture!

Two places the right wing never want to consider budget cuts. But its not socialism?

oxymoron, f'n hell

I mean you do know who Al Hamilton was and what he did, right? Rockefeller? JP Morgan?


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:20 pm
  

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agnes wrote:
while i am not a romney fan,

i am still not on board with ron paul either (re: the blurb at the end of the second clip)


Ron Paul aces when it comes to defense and foreign policy. As are friend Jafo pointed out though he does quite get it when it comes to economics and of course his Medicare Medicaide solutions are as scary as Paul Ryans and he has no health care plan at all (his truly Republican trait!)


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:45 pm
  

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I have expressed my opinion for some time but I don't communicate well so I will just state:

The United States of America is now and always has been a Socialist Country. Most often that socialism has favored the wealthy. Romney is a perfect example. He has different tax structures and ways of hiding wealth (he didn't create that, it has been around awhile). The Republicans go on and on about social spending. They prefer social spending on Defense and Agriculture because they get a bigger cut (Oil of course falls under both those categories). Insurance games are like utilities you actually have to provide services without being able to siphon a big profit so F' Health care. Historically, of course it is a strange story. William Jennings Bryan on the cross made of silver. He lost the war but that whole progressive movement was socialized into what became modern agriculture by 1920. Of course big military comes from WWII and it brother the cold war. As we all know from Jafo prior to this time the rich people just pretty much out right owned the government.

Am I missing something?


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:07 pm
  

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I mean you do know who Al Hamilton was and what he did, right? Rockefeller? JP Morgan?


J.P. Morgan funded Tesla, who killed A LOT of cows and luckily he was stopped before he turned the planet into a giant Westinghouse toaster.

I don't believe any country, save for perhaps Denmark or Sweden, is truly socialist. I don't believe any country is truly a republic or a democracy, but the US seems to approach the latter. Like yours, of course, my take is just an opinion. Politically, Sweden is about the best place to live. No unemployment, if I recall correctly.

BTW... I saw a "JAFO" on the "Survival Magazine" forum. I asked if he was the same as from here, but no response...


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