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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:31 pm
  

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i know, i know, "bury the evidence"

i am putting this back

agnes wrote:
seriously, this ain’t no fresh hell.

and you forgot about the cell towers, among other things

so done

agnes wrote:
okay, the links i have already posted go into various things including better placement of turbines (avoiding likely migratory routes and such) and changes in design to reduce such incidents.

they also go into various other sources of avian casualties as well.

according to what i have read, i understand that cell towers (communication towers) are a source of many bird casualties. millions per year, i understand. here too they are trying to make the towers more bird friendly.

http://www.npr.org/2017/01/24/510811662 ... ome-lights


agnes wrote:
it says the wind "tree" thing can provide 3.1 KW, but over what period of time?

i’d also like to see the break down of how it would pay for itself ($36,500) in a few years.

it is a little lean on details.

looking for something more comprehensive

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-new ... 180948154/

http://science.howstuffworks.com/enviro ... -birds.htm

http://science.howstuffworks.com/enviro ... birds1.htm

http://science.howstuffworks.com/enviro ... birds2.htm

http://science.howstuffworks.com/enviro ... birds3.htm


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 Post subject: Re: stuff about stuff
PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:42 pm
  

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I am not burying the evidence! I am showing you how those organizations that say it doesn't kill them lie to keep us from knowing the truth - the truth which you obviously haven't read or watched because it would have taken you 30 minutes to get through my last posts if not more. That is not burying anything. That's the shocking truth and people have their heads in the sand or just don't research this out to the fullest.

And this time, it's me who is done. No sense trying, here. I work with the Eagle On Alliance as well as many of the raptor persecution sites, Bird Life, International and many other places who do know what is really happening. I'll just stick with trying to help all I can to stop this nonsense.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:47 pm
  

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Dragonfly wrote:
I am not burying the evidence!


uh-huh


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 Post subject: Re: stuff about stuff
PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:29 am
  

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Dragonfly wrote:
..Bird Life, International and many other places who do know what is really happening....


this from bird life international:

http://www.birdlife.org/worldwide/polic ... ower-lines

this is exactly the kind of stuff i was talking about in my posts, and which was discussed in the links i posted.

go figure?


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:12 pm
  

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agnes wrote:
Dragonfly wrote:
..Bird Life, International and many other places who do know what is really happening....


this from bird life international:

http://www.birdlife.org/worldwide/polic ... ower-lines

this is exactly the kind of stuff i was talking about in my posts, and which was discussed in the links i posted.

go figure?


seriously, was that whole fiasco of yours a cry for help?


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:31 pm
  

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Love wild life, including the birds and get it about the wind farms. We got some a couple of miles from us and they look okay.
Wind farms seem to be better for our future environment regarding pollution in comparison to fossil fuels. Of course they can and should be improved as well as taking into account the birds. Expect this will happen. But didn't your President recently pull the USA out of the Paris Climate Accord and didn't lots of folks in the USA applaud their tweetiest, stupidest, bully nutcase President? Climate change is happening now and banging on the doors of the mighty USA in so many ways. Heck, even your hurricanes are getting bigger, if not better!
Just think the wee picture is much bigger than the wind turbines, the birds and wee us. Perhaps some day humanity will cry for help and discover that there isn't anybody out there. Living in the countryside we so much wish peace and goodwill to our fellow living critters including all the birds that visit and reside in our garden. ( save nature and may the Dragonflies of this world continue to spread their wings and fly above the human fiasco) But here's some wee expressions of the bigger picture that some fellow humans put out there....

https://youtu.be/WmVLcj-XKnM
https://youtu.be/rM6txLtoaoc
https://youtu.be/jBqMJzv4Cs8
https://youtu.be/fwV9OYeGN88
https://youtu.be/mkjwxmcdb0E
https://youtu.be/qBBOue_AdcU
https://youtu.be/3e66bnuxV2A



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 7:13 pm
  

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woodstock69 wrote:
...But didn't your President recently pull the USA out of the Paris Climate Accord

yes!
woodstock69 wrote:
and didn't lots of folks in the USA applaud their tweetiest, stupidest, bully nutcase President?


probably? and i would have to wonder where/who this applause came from?

well, i think my favourite,,,,statement from the clips you posted, the best takeaway from this series i guess you would say, would be from the robert redford one:

“if they [humans] don’t figure out that they are part of nature, rather than just, using nature, they probably won’t be around to see you [a wee tree] grow up.”

but now as far as this statement from the series: water being “something they [humans] just take for granted”, i am easily on record expressing exactly the opposite.

and i knew then if i’ve said it and thought it, others have said it in their own way too, no doubt about it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96ZZwpcFzy8


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:41 am
  

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agnes wrote:
agnes wrote:
Dragonfly wrote:
..Bird Life, International and many other places who do know what is really happening....


this from bird life international:

http://www.birdlife.org/worldwide/polic ... ower-lines

this is exactly the kind of stuff i was talking about in my posts, and which was discussed in the links i posted.

go figure?


seriously, was that whole fiasco of yours a cry for help?


another WTF classic

https://twitter.com/PearlsFromMyrna/sta ... 3197943808


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:54 pm
  

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one of the best posts ever

heraclitis wrote:
I love the whole:

"Wow, I woke up today and realized the world is f'ed up and dangerous"

movement!

I love the whole:

"Wow, the government is so screwed up"

after hate radio and the Tea Party have been pushing a whole screw up the government movement for years.

I love the whole:

"I am just a naive bumpkin grass roots American who has no idea how I got in this place"

after saying give all the money to the wealthy and they will take care of us for years and years and years and years.
After all, they are professional money handlers!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fuFvpvV1zo


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 11:03 pm
  

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agnes wrote:
agnes wrote:
Dragonfly wrote:
..Bird Life, International and many other places who do know what is really happening....


this from bird life international:

http://www.birdlife.org/worldwide/polic ... ower-lines

this is exactly the kind of stuff i was talking about in my posts, and which was discussed in the links i posted.

go figure?


seriously, was that whole fiasco of yours a cry for help?


A cry for help? You have seriously got to be kidding. I won't be discussing this with you or posting in this forum section anymore. I don't know what I have done to deserve you making fun and insulting me every chance you can but I've had enough!


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 8:13 am
  

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more deflection.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:50 pm
  

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"There are times to leave it alone and times to kick it around, times to provoke sleeping dogs and times to join them. Essentially - Be yourself without having to resort to consistency." - ADG


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:42 pm
  

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a time to laugh, and a time to cry

she makes me laugh

https://twitter.com/PearlsFromMyrna/sta ... 4411614208

and she makes me cry


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:10 pm
  

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from the epic epitome of excellence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6u_wcyZKmA


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:42 pm
  

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side note:

i get it. no worries….


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